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    • Alric
      Alric Count last edited by Alric

      Forum post dor discussion discord channel.

      Change ranks to commoner, Esquire, knight, baron, count, duke, prince, king, emperor.
      (Or something similar)

      Knight and up are considered nobles

      knight (vassal noble)
      Get vote.
      Build hold, including a manor or small castle or some medium sized administrative building?

      Baron (first rank where you can be a realm leader)
      Barony is slightly larger, the main hold and one hamlet.

      (Sidebar: do you start a realm at knight, but only get baron once you hit the baron build reqs?)

      Count
      County is bigger yet and 2 hamlets

      Duke,
      Reduce duchy to 2 counties? Or a combo of counties/baronies with min build numbers? Do anything to lessen the exponential rate?

      Prince
      2 duchies instead of 3?

      Do we maintain the capital building reqs? Or go with overall build reqs, so people can build less urban realms?

      Additional knight/ baron rank instead of lord makes vote take longer (maybe) but slightly streamline higher ranks so people still get progression. You should still be able to reach higher ranks as a vassal, knight shouldn't be considered a stopping point for people who enjoy being vassals.

      Im in the one vote no matter rank camp, so that influences my take. If high ranks retain more votes, don't reduce duke+ reqs

      Resolved with Charter: https://forums.candarion.com/topic/64/charter-for-candarion/9 -Alric

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      • Kyrin
        Kyrin Viscount last edited by

        I prefer this order Commoner, Esquire, Knight, Lord(vassal vote), Baron(can start own realm), Count, Duke, King, Emperor. I would be in favour of ditching the capital building reqs.

        His Imperial Majesty, Kysar Ayratreus Odysseon Skylar, Meridius Elementus, Rex of the Kry, Imperial Protector of the Faith, Ky Paramount of the Cascade, Oracle of the Four, Guardian Chancellor of the Realm.

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        • Aevirath
          Aevirath Viscount last edited by Aevirath

          My suggestion is thus

          Commoner (Start on server)

          Esquire (Can't be relinquished)

          Knight (1 Vote)

          Baron (Realm Start)

          Viscount (1 Vote (FTP) )

          Count ( 2 Vote (NPC) )

          Duke ( 2 Vote (2 FTP) )

          Prince (3 Vote)

          King (3 Vote (3 FTP)

          Emperor (4 Vote)

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          • Aron
            Aron Baron last edited by Aron

            Commoner -> Base Rank
            Esquire -> Here to stay
            Knight -> 1 Vote (approx old Lord)
            Baron -> Can found a realm
            Viscount -> Can start a co-build NPC realm with other Viscount+, first FTP (approx old Count)
            Count -> Can found solo NPC realms
            Duke -> 2 Votes, 2nd FTP
            Prince -> 3rd FTP
            King -> 3 Votes
            Emperor -> 3 Votes and also you're an emperor (basically a prestige rank?)

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            • Alric
              Alric Count last edited by

              I like Aevirath's system.
              We should probably figure out rank requirements, and put it all together before finalizing anything though. A lot of this is on the assumption that these extra ranks will not follow the same exponential requirements pattern, but instead result in getting ranks a little more frequently, and give a better feeling of progression.

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              • BoiteMan
                BoiteMan Baron last edited by

                now should we use more colors for ranks ?

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                • ThunderPony
                  ThunderPony Prince @Aevirath last edited by

                  @Aevirath said in Noble ranks:

                  My suggestion is thus

                  Commoner (Start on server)

                  Esquire (Can't be relinquished)

                  Knight (1 Vote)

                  Baron (Realm Start)

                  Viscount (1 Vote (FTP) )

                  Count ( 2 Vote (NPC) )

                  Duke ( 2 Vote (2 FTP) )

                  Prince (3 Vote)

                  King (3 Vote (3 FTP)

                  Emperor (4 Vote)

                  I am fine with this system. It seems to offer a fair amount of voting power for those who have put in the time but not excessively and clear in game benefits such as NPC realms and FTP. ALthough @Aevirath When you say NPC do you mean they get 1 NPC realm or are just able to make NPC realms?

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                  • beijimon
                    beijimon Viscount @Aron last edited by

                    @Aron said in Noble ranks:

                    Commoner -> Base Rank
                    Esquire -> Here to stay
                    Knight -> 1 Vote (approx old Lord)
                    Baron -> Can found a realm
                    Viscount -> Can start a co-build NPC realm with other Viscount+, first FTP (approx old Count)
                    Count -> Can found solo NPC realms
                    Duke -> 2 Votes, 2nd FTP
                    Prince -> 3rd FTP
                    King -> 3 Votes
                    Emperor -> 3 Votes and also you're an emperor (basically a prestige rank?)

                    I like this system. I would also be fine with reducing the requirements for ranking up but not to a large extent — I.e. no 2-county duchies.

                    Finally, I’d support changing the build requirements to a capital of a certain size plus a set number of buildings distributed in any way to allow more flexibility in realm creation and style.

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                    • Alric
                      Alric Count @beijimon last edited by

                      @beijimon
                      The voice discussion was a capital size, a total number of buildings, and a total number of settlements.

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